Pasta or noodle, which came first (2024)

By CH'NG Poh Tiong / 庄布忠

"Had Marco Polo actually set foot in China, he could not have possibly missed noticing some rather peculiar local Chinese customs and phenomena such as tea drinking and women binding feet."

CH'NG Poh Tiong's column: Zuo Wang

This latest column is the first of a two-part article on whether noodles were introduced into China from Italy or was it the other way around.

A good starting point to consider the controversy is with the Venetian Marco Polo (c.1254 – 8 or 9 January 1324).

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In 1269, Polo (pictured)’s father and uncle, Niccolo and Maffeo, both merchants, returned to Venice from their travels in Asia. They were a long time away and met the 15-year old Marco for the first time.

Another year or two later, when Marco was just 17, the three of them set off again for Asia.

By the time they had reached China, if they actually did reach China, the Mongol Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368) had established itself.

It was another 24 years before Marco Polo returned to Venice, only to find it was now at war with Genoa.

The returnee was imprisoned and dictated his stories to a cellmate. Polo was released four years later in 1299, became a wealthy merchant, married and had three children. He died in 1324 and was buried in San Lorenzo, Florence.

Did Marco Polo actually made it to the Middle Kingdom?

DID MARCO POLO GO TO CHINA?

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In 1995, Frances Wood, head of Chinese Department in the British Library published a book entitled Did Marco Polo Go to China? (pictured)

The scholar points out that had Marco Polo actually set foot in China, he could not have possibly missed noticing some rather peculiar local Chinese customs and phenomena such as:

•tea drinking
•binding of women's feet (which first started in the Song Dynasty, 960-1279)
•calligraphy
•the Great Wall of China

Frances Wood thinks Marco Polo never got beyond Persia. His China stay, she suggests, was retold by him with the help of Arab and Persian travellers who had, themselves, visited and traded with China.

For a foreigner neglecting to point out such unusual cultural practices like tea drinking and women binding feet would be as if an alien who visited our planet failing to spot humans spending so much time talking into their mobile phones or staring constantly at their tablets and computers.

It was missing things that were the most obviously different.

Perhaps most glaring of all, Wood points out that Marco Polo is not mentioned in any Chinese records.

This omission is in spite of the fact that Marco Polo claimed to have met Kublai Khan. And that he was a governor of Yangzhou, a very important city.

Given the Chinese propensity for keeping records, Marco Polo not mentioned officially would seem rather odd.

That being the case, Marco Polo as the source of pasta having been introduced into China is very tenuous. Not that I am even suggesting that pasta was introduced to China in the first place.

FIRST MENTION OF PASTA

The first reference to pasta dates back to 1154, in Sicily.

Pasta is made from durum wheat flour mixed with water and formed into sheets or various shapes. It can be made with flour from other cereals or grains and eggs may be used instead of water. Pastas may be dried or fresh.

According to some historians, the Arabs adapted noodles for long journeys in the 5th century. This represents the first written record of dry pasta. Durum wheat was actually introduced by Libyan Arabs during their conquest of Sicily in the late 7th century. The dried pasta introduced was being produced in great quantities in the Sicilian capital Palermo at that time.

As such, we can even say it was the Arabs who first introduced pasta to Italy.

In the 14th and 15th centuries, dried pasta became popular for its easy storage. This allowed people to store dried pasta in ships when exploring the New World.

These then were the world’s first instant noodles. Not Japan’s Nissin Foods’ “Top Ramen” which was invented in 1958 (and, later, cup noodles in 1971).

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Compared to highly processed Japanese instant noodles, the earlier Arab dried pasta was healthier because it did not contain any MSG, another dubious Japanese invention.

(Incidentally, in Xinjiang, Muslim people there pack naan bread with them to eat on long journeys).

EATEN WITH FINGERS

The first written record of pasta with tomato sauce can be found in the 1790 cookbook L'Apicio Moderno by Roman chef Francesco Leonardi. Before tomato sauce was introduced, pasta was eaten dry with the fingers (pictured). The liquid sauce demanded the use of a fork. And only rich people could have afforded utensils in the old days.

Tomato originated from Mexico. It spread around the world following the Spanish colonization of the Americas much like the British spreading the fame of Bordeaux wines and cognac to her many colonies including Singapore and, at one time, Hong Kong.

The Italian word for tomato is pomodoro, which translates, literally, as ‘Golden Apple’. The reason is because the first tomatoes that arrived in Italy were yellow in colour (pictured), not red.

Incredibly, today, the largest exporter of tomato sauce back to Italy is Xinjiang.

Italy, however, returns the favour and exports Prada, Gucci, Tod’s, Brioni, Zegna, Maserati, Lamborghini and Ferrari to China.

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Columnist Introduction

A lawyer by training, CH’NG Poh Tiong also holds a Postgraduate Certificate with Distinction in Chinese Art from the School of Oriental & African Studies, University of London. He is an Honorary Ambassador of TEFAF – The European Fine Art Fair – Maastricht. CH'NG works principally as a wine journalist and is publisher of The Wine Review, the oldest wine publication in Southeast Asia, Hong Kong and China since 1991.

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Pasta or noodle, which came first (2024)

FAQs

Pasta or noodle, which came first? ›

Noodles existed in China and Asia long before pasta appeared in the Mediterranean world, and the legend goes that Marco Polo brought pasta to Italy from China in the 13th century. Apparently, there are passages in The Travels of Marco Polo (by Marco Polo, of course) that refer to “pasta-like dishes.”

Is spaghetti older than noodles? ›

The origin of noodles can be traced back to ancient China, where they have been a staple food for thousands of years. Chinese immigrants likely introduced noodles to Italy during the 13th century, and over time, Italian culinary traditions developed their own unique variations, including spaghetti.

Did the Japanese invent pasta? ›

While Asian noodles are believed to have originated in China, pasta is believed to have independently originated in Italy and is a staple food of Italian cuisine, with evidence of Etruscans making pasta as early as 400 BCE in Italy.

When did noodle start? ›

Noddle was a credit report service offered by the British arm of American company TransUnion (formerly CallCredit). The business was launched in 2011 and was sold to Credit Karma in 2019.

Did Marco Polo bring noodles to Italy? ›

This, combined with the fact that pasta was already gaining popularity in other areas of Italy during the 13th century, makes it very unlikely that Marco Polo was the first to introduce pasta to Italy. Noodles existed in Asia long before Polo's trip to China.

What did Italians eat before pasta? ›

Mediterranean seafood, spices from the Middle East, grains from Northern Africa and various meats were popular in traditional Roman dishes. With its wide availability, wines, grains and olive oil became three staples of Roman cooking.

Is spaghetti basically noodles? ›

However, as defined by the National Pasta Association, a noodle must contain at least 5.5% egg content. Spaghetti does not match this criterion, and is therefore not considered a noodle. Similarly, the National Pasta Association defined pasta as being made with durum wheat and water.

Is pasta Chinese or Italian? ›

Origins. Although popular legend claims Marco Polo introduced pasta to Italy following his exploration of the Far East in the late 13th century, pasta can be traced back as far as the 4th century B.C., where an Etruscan tomb showed a group of natives making what appears to be pasta.

Is spaghetti Italian or Chinese? ›

Spaghetti
Spaghetti hung to dry
TypePasta
Place of originItaly
Main ingredientsSemolina or flour, water
Media: Spaghetti

Who originally invented pasta? ›

Despite its many forms and the countless texts in which it has appeared, pasta seems to be universally associated with Italy. According to history, however, pasta's earliest roots begin in China, during the Shang Dynasty (1700-1100 BC), where some form of pasta was made with either wheat or rice flour.

What is the oldest noodle? ›

The oldest evidence of noodles was from 4,000 years ago in China. In 2005, a team of archaeologists reported finding an earthenware bowl that contained 4000-year-old noodles at the Lajia archaeological site. These noodles were said to resemble lamian, a type of Chinese noodle.

Why do Chinese eat so much noodles? ›

Though noodles are part of everyday life in Chinese culture, they also hold a lot of symbolism when eaten during significant events. In China, noodles are frequently eaten during the start of the Lunar New Year and on birthdays. In fact, they symbolize longevity and good health for the year ahead.

Is there a difference between pasta and noodles? ›

Differences in Ingredients

Flour – smooth, soft, and a lighter shade, noodles may be crafted using a finer kind of flour or a variety of different flours. Pasta on the other hand uses a heavier denser kind of flour to give it that weight. Salt – salt is essential when it comes to noodles.

Who invented lasagna? ›

We may never know the exact person who created lasagna. In fact, this dish was not named after an individual, but after a fermented noodle called laganon that was frequently used in ancient Greece where lasagna originated.

Was pizza originated in Italy? ›

Pizza dates back thousands of years, believe it or not, tracing its roots back to the flatbreads with toppings that were popular with ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans. But modern pizza, the flatbreads with tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings, was born along the western coast of Italy, in the city of Naples.

Did pasta exist before Marco Polo? ›

Pasta certainly existed in Italy long before Marco Polo headed off to explore new lands, but its exact origins have unfortunately been lost in the depths of time.

Which pasta dish is the oldest? ›

Testaroli has been described as "the earliest recorded pasta". It is also a native dish of the southern Liguria and northern Tuscany regions of Italy. Testaroli is prepared from a batter that is cooked on a hot flat surface, after which it may be consumed.

What is the oldest type of pasta? ›

In fact, the earliest forms of pasta excavated in archaeological digs were made from millet, a grain that has been in use in East Asia much longer than rice or wheat. Early Chinese cultures mostly grew soft wheat that was not well suited to making dried pastas, but made good fresh pasta.

When was spaghetti invented? ›

However, some historians say pasta may have been invented all the way back to 1st century BC, and the direct origin of Italian pasta likely came from an Arab meal called “itriyya” during 7th century AD when Arabs occupied Sicily. By 12th century, Sicilian records of spaghetti proved pasta was commonplace.

What year did spaghetti come out? ›

In the West, it may have first been worked into long, thin forms in Sicily around the 12th century, as the Tabula Rogeriana of Muhammad al-Idrisi attested, reporting some traditions about the Sicilian kingdom.

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